"Mm-hmm. I made the dough yesterday and baked it this morning. The dough needs time to rise, like bread, so you have to plan ahead a little. But letting the dough rise doesn't take effort, just counter space. The patience sometimes takes effort."

Hers'll be ready first, but that's okay, that gives her time to wash the berry juices off her hands before getting out the grater to do the parm. "I can teach you how to make the dough someday if you'd like."